From The Walking Eye:

Kevin sits down with Ryan Macklin, John Wick, and Eddy Webb to discuss the pros and cons of drifting the rules in RPG’s. It’s a good discussion, and fair warning, the last 10 minutes or so are actually a tangent on the realities of being an internet microcelebrity, and how people act vastly differently to said celebrities when they meet them in person rather than how they talk about them on internet forums. Still a pretty interesting conversation, but if you’re here just to hear about drifting, you might wanna skip the last 10 minutes.

You can listen to it at http://www.thewalkingeye.com/?p=1080